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IBM public domain true type APL font
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Hans Seehase
2008-02-01 21:58:15 UTC
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I located an IBM APL true type font in the Waterloo archives that can be
downloaded. I am looking for a public domain font for
the inclusion in Word documents, for example. The font has the IBM
copyright notices in its header. Does anyone know if this font is there
by mistake or if it can be used? Thanks,

Hans S.
David Liebtag
2008-02-02 14:59:31 UTC
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Hans,

I am not aware of any IBM fonts that are freely distributed. It may be a
mistake. I don't see an IBM APL font on the Waterloo site. What is the
address where you found it?

In any case, I like Adrian Smith's APL385 font. There is a link to it at
the bottom of this APL wiki page:

http://aplwiki.aplteam.com/moin.cgi/SpecialCharacters

David Liebtag
IBM APL Products and Services
Hans Seehase
2008-02-02 21:36:27 UTC
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Post by David Liebtag
Hans,
I am not aware of any IBM fonts that are freely distributed. It may be a
mistake. I don't see an IBM APL font on the Waterloo site. What is the
address where you found it?
In any case, I like Adrian Smith's APL385 font. There is a link to it at
http://aplwiki.aplteam.com/moin.cgi/SpecialCharacters
David Liebtag
IBM APL Products and Services
David,

here is the link,

http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/apl_archives/apl/fonts/apl2ital/truetype/
David Liebtag
2008-02-04 18:10:00 UTC
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Hans,

Microsoft offers a free tool for viewing font properties too. It is
available here:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/TrueTypeProperty21.mspx

Regarding APL2 Italic, the situation is a little confused. I have a vague
memory we told someone they could distribute APL2 Italic years ago, but I
don't remember for sure. I do know that the version on the Waterloo site is
different than the version we currently distribute with APL2. The version
we distribute has a more restrictive license. But, it does support
imbedding so that should be fine. To do so in Word, click Options on the
tools menu, and then click the Save tab. Check "Embed Truetype Fonts". Then,
save the document.

David Liebtag
IBM APL Products and Services
Hans Seehase
2008-02-04 19:52:05 UTC
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Thanks for the links, David. I downloaded APL385 and the MS font
property viewer. You are right, from the embedding information it looks
like the Waterloo font can be used. What I do notice is that in some of
my documents in which I had (the more recent) IBM APL2 code embedded,
the code will not display properly with APL385 font, or any other
Unicode font that supposedly includes APL characters. I see that the
keyboard/character mapping for the IBM font is different, which could
explain that. Will that discrepancy between APL dialects always exist or
is Unicode supposed to make it disappear?
Post by David Liebtag
Hans,
Microsoft offers a free tool for viewing font properties too. It is
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/TrueTypeProperty21.mspx
Regarding APL2 Italic, the situation is a little confused. I have a vague
memory we told someone they could distribute APL2 Italic years ago, but I
don't remember for sure. I do know that the version on the Waterloo site is
different than the version we currently distribute with APL2. The version
we distribute has a more restrictive license. But, it does support
imbedding so that should be fine. To do so in Word, click Options on the
tools menu, and then click the Save tab. Check "Embed Truetype Fonts". Then,
save the document.
David Liebtag
IBM APL Products and Services
David Liebtag
2008-02-04 22:27:38 UTC
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Hans,

There are two types of APL2 fonts: single byte and Unicode.

The single byte fonts include APL2 Image, Courier APL2, and APL2 italic.

The Unicode fonts include APL2 Unicode Italic and Courier APL2 Unicode.

If you want to use APL385, then you should create Unicode rather than single
byte text. (Check the Unicode clipboard system option before copying and
pasting text from the APL2 development environment.)

David Liebtag
IBM APL Products and Services
GKM
2008-03-29 14:38:46 UTC
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Post by Hans Seehase
I located an IBM APL true type font in the Waterloo archives that can be
downloaded. I am looking for a public domain font for
the inclusion in Word documents, for example. The font has the IBM
copyright notices in its header. Does anyone know if this font is there by
mistake or if it can be used? Thanks,
Hans S.
I have IBM APL2 and I see that there are there several TTF fonts. Can these
be used under WORD? How do I do it?

Help appreciated.

GKM

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